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Archives for March 2005

Update: Children and Your Sex Life

March 30, 2005 by Jack Steiner Leave a Comment

I have received numerous comments regarding this post. Two of my respondents were women who emailed me about this and said that I could quote them as long as did I not reveal their names because of the sensitive nature of this topic.

The general consensus was that they have marriages in which the sex has never decreased because they always make themselves available to their husbands, even when they are tired. “It is not that hard to take care of him. It doesn’t have to be a marathon, sometimes it can be quick. It is so easy to do, such an easy way to make him feel special and loved.”

The other woman said that her friends use their bodies to control their husbands, that they use sex as a tool to leverage things and that she thinks that they are making excuses when they deny their husbands.

I rather expect to get some heated remarks to this post, but that is essentially what they shared with me.

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Does Having Children Prevent an Active Sex Life

March 30, 2005 by Jack Steiner 1 Comment

This is a topic that the boys and I have had on a number of occasions. It is usually a night on which we have gathered for an evening without wife or children to just spend a little quiet time for ourselves.

We’ll drink a few beers, shoot the breeze and at some point in the night we’ll notice that there are attractive women walking by. They could be in groups of two or three or walking by themselves. They may or not be pushing strollers. It doesn’t matter, there will be something about them that catches our eye and we’ll try to be discreet about checking her out.

Since our significant others are not included in these affairs we may even spend a few moments talking about the eye candy we have been enjoying. And for a moment we might even quietly fantasize about her, what it would be like to be single and to be able to rejoin the hunt for a brief time. Of course we’ll have conveniently forgotten all of the things we didn’t like about being single, the fact that even if we were available she might still choose to ignore us. Just details and who likes details.

At some point someone will talk about what it was like before children. Spontaneous trips to Vegas or Hawaii, nights in which you walked in and took your wife in the kitchen or bathroom or some other random room in the house. Evenings in which you didn’t have to worry about fitting sex into a schedule etc.

Don’t get me wrong, one of the things I love about my friends is that they love being a father as much as I do. We get off on taking our sons to the park together and spending quality man time bonding with them. But every now and then you remember the past and wonder a little bit about the future.

So I have to say that I was pleased to read this article by Ayelet Waldman. It always made sense to me that our wives would have similar conversations to ours and that there would be at least one or more couples that were still very active in the bedroom.

“I HAVE been in many mothers’ groups – Mommy and Me, Gymboree, Second-Time Moms – and each time, within three minutes, the conversation invariably comes around to the topic of how often mommy feels compelled to put out. Everyone wants to be reassured that no one else is having sex either. These are women who, for the most part, are comfortable with their bodies, consider themselves sexual beings. These are women who love their husbands or partners. Still, almost none of them are having any sex.

There are agreed upon reasons for this bed death. They are exhausted. It still hurts. They are so physically available to their babies – nursing, carrying, stroking – how could they bear to be physically available to anyone else?

But the real reason for this lack of sex, or at least the most profound, is that the wife’s passion has been refocused. Instead of concentrating her ardor on her husband, she concentrates it on her babies. Where once her husband was the center of her passionate universe, there is now a new sun in whose orbit she revolves. Libido, as she once knew it, is gone, and in its place is all-consuming maternal desire. There is absolute unanimity on this topic, and instant reassurance.

Except, that is, from me.

I am the only woman in Mommy and Me who seems to be, well, getting any.”

I am sure that there are some people out there who see this post as a complaint about my life. It is not that at all. Just a brief observation and comment about people. I find people to be incredibly interesting, it is one of the reasons I went into sales.

We have so many similarities and yet we are so very different. Our thoughts and ideas on how we view the world, the way in which we approach life are just so interesting to me. I think that this is one of the reasons why I enjoy blogging and reading other blogs so much.

The boys and talk about many things along these lines and the general topic. It is kind of interesting to me. Before we got married there were a lot of things that might have gotten tossed out there. You definitely heard about the wild women and their ways in the bedroom. You heard tales of love and conquest.

And then after we hooked up the shades came down. We all got be a little bit more guarded in what we told each other. It wasn’t like we were all that detailed prior to this, but for many years we have been a little bit more circumspect. Now we circle around the topic two or three times before we are willing to broach it.

Billy wants to know if he has the only wife who received a ring and stopped offering oral sex. Ted wants to know if anyone else is told that once a week is as often as he should expect it because not one else has a wife who does better. Jim is strangely quiet, is he not sharing because he is living a dream life and doesn’t want to upset the others, or is he embarrassed.

Bob says that he overheard his wife complaining to her friends that men are only interested in their own pleasure and suggests that perhaps that is the problem. Of course no one in the room admits to this and that is not to say that any one of us is guilty or innocent. It is just part of the conversation.

Those of us who work as the sole provider grumble a bit about not being given enough respect for the load that we carrry. Murmurs abound about being more appreciated for that and comments like “I know that is hard to be a full time mom, but give me some credit” float through the room.

And at times I wonder if the women’s tales are all that different from ours. Slightly different complaints, but similar in nature. We all miss the time in which we were the focal point and now we have subjugated our own interests.

Returning to the story I cited earlier I wonder about a few things.

“And afterward my husband will say that we, he and I, are the core of what he cherishes, that the children are satellites, beloved but tangential.

He seems entirely unperturbed by loving me like this. Loving me more than his children does not bother him. It does not make him feel like a bad father. He does not feel that loving me more than he loves them is a kind of infidelity.”

I don’t think that you have to love your children the same way you love your spouse because it is a different kind of love. It is an all encompassing love for your children, but it doesn’t have the same kind of passion. You don’t make love to your children, but you make love to your spouse.

To me they are distinctly different and not something that you can judge as being right or wrong. I find it to be a very interesting topic and something that I want to mull over and consider in more detail.

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From Monkey Business to Baby Love

March 30, 2005 by Jack Steiner Leave a Comment

This is a cool story about love and marriage of a different sort. The story is too long to post, but here are a couple of key segments that help to explain it.

“Their courtship had an awkward start. She was aloof. He was frustrated. He lunged at her. She backed away. But even in wildlife, there are second chances. A few weeks later, she threw herself at him. He touched her gently.

In the confines of a private outdoor enclosure at the Los Angeles Zoo, Minyak and Kalim became the dream couple — two pure Bornean orangutans. They were spotted one day caressing and grooming each other for hours.

“It was a pure love fest,” said animal keeper Megan Fox.

For a week last June, they mated every day.

Their coupling would produce one of the zoo’s new spring additions and offer testament to the physical prowess of the once sickly and depressed male, Min- yak, and the nurturing skills of the unproven Kalim, the female. Long before the birth, zookeepers had to play the roles of matchmaker, therapist and trainer.”

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“After their mating last June, keepers began their vigil for signs of pregnancy, watching Kalim as obsessively as tabloid editors scrutinize photos of Demi Moore for evidence of the same. Was she or wasn’t she?

Zoo staffers tracked Kalim’s menstrual cycles. They bought home pregnancy tests and dipped the sticks in Kalim’s urine. They never got a positive result.

Then, slowly, Kalim started to show physical changes. She stopped menstruating. Still, Kalim’s handlers were nervous about making a public statement.

“We actually thought she was pregnant a long time before we actually admitted that she was,” Jennie McNary, the zoo’s curator of mammals, said with a laugh. “We didn’t want to blow it.”

An ultrasound, performed through the mesh siding of Kalim’s exhibit when she was six months along, revealed that she was carrying a live baby. But preparations for a birth were underway long before that. Zookeepers calculated a rough due date, Feb. 13.

First-time mothers, particularly those raised in captivity, are often clueless with their newborns. Deprived of role models in the wild, and sometimes hand-reared by zoo staff, they often ignore their babies, carry them upside down or injure them. Kalim, raised by zoo staff, was seen as an at-risk mother.

So after confirming the pregnancy, mammal curator McNary decided the zoo had to teach mothering to Kalim. Animal keeper Megan Fox, Kalim’s primary teacher, started by putting a furry brown stuffed orangutan from the zoo gift shop in Kalim’s enclosure.

“It’s just natural for them to pick something like that up,” Fox said.

When Kalim picked up the stuffed toy, she was rewarded with a snack. “Once she knew that the whole training thing was based on the stuffed animal, it was easy for her,” she said.

Eager to please, Kalim would try to give the toy animal to her keeper. “They like trading for stuff. I had to be careful not to reward her for trying to stuff the baby through the mesh,” Fox said.

When Kalim manhandled the toy, Fox walked away from her. “I wasn’t going to reward her for pulling an arm off.” Keepers ended up going through four stuffed toys over the course of Kalim’s training.

For a while, Kalim carried the toy upside down and Fox would say “over” until the orangutan learned to turn it right side up. “They’re so smart. You don’t have to do a lot of steps generally to help them understand behaviors,” she said.

Then Fox trained her to bring the toy to the mesh of her enclosure — with the toy’s face pointed outward. Fox wanted her to be comfortable keeping the “baby” at the mesh for a bottle of milk in case Kalim wasn’t nursing well.

Zookeepers preferred that Kalim nurse the baby, so they trained the ape to put the toy to her nipple. “That’s another big thing that first-time moms can have problems with, learning how to put an infant on their chest,” Fox said. “They may be carrying it and doing all these other wonderful things, but they’re just not nursing it.”

That took the longest. Every time Kalim moved the toy closer to her chest, Fox would reward her. It was slow going, and with the pregnancy advancing, the keepers decided on another approach.

Fox trained Kalim to put the stuffed toy wherever she pointed a stick. Once Kalim learned that behavior, Fox started moving the stick to Kalim’s nipple. Eventually, Fox would say “nurse” and Kalim would put the toy at her nipple.

The training took almost six months.”

The whole story is just very cool and very interesting.

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Scientists Puzzled No Tsunami After Quake

March 29, 2005 by Jack Steiner Leave a Comment

“EWA BEACH, Hawaii – Tsunami experts could not understand why Monday’s forceful earthquake off Indonesia failed to produce massive waves similar to those generated by the Dec. 26 quake that killed at least 175,000 people in the same region.

A magnitude 8.7 quake shook Indonesia‘s west coast, killing hundreds of people and spreading panic that another devastating tsunami was on the way.

There was no tsunami, but a small wave was detected by a tide gauge on Cocos Island near Australia, about 1,500 miles south of the epicenter, according to the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center on Oahu.

“I’m baffled an earthquake this size didn’t trigger a tsunami near the epicenter,” said Robert Cessaro, a geophysicist at the center, which is operated by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. It is responsible for monitoring seismic and ocean conditions in the Pacific and alerting Pacific Rim nations and U.S. agencies,

Center Director Charles McCreery said earthquakes of at least 8.0 magnitude usually generate major tsunamis.”

This is just incredible, absolutely amazing to me. Things like this just remind you about how small we are in the scope of things.

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People Have Short Memories

March 29, 2005 by Jack Steiner Leave a Comment

It is a fact of life that people have short memories. In particular I am referring to the various tragedies we have seen, the Tsunami, 911, the Oklahoma City bombing, Columbine etc.

I should clarify that for those who lost a loved one or were impacted more directly it probably does not apply with the same strength, but even there I expect we can find it.

And by it I mean that as time goes by the memory fades and most people pay less attention to what is going on in these places. They send less money to charitable organizations that were established to help the recovery slow down and sometimes even peter out.

I suppose that some of this can be attributed to our coping skills, how we deal with things and move on.

Just some thoughts to consider.

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Evolution

March 28, 2005 by Jack Steiner Leave a Comment

That old DovBear tipped me off to this article about evolution. There is yet another foolish argument about evolution and a fight about whether it should be taught in school.

Here is a great quote:

“But pastor and parent Ray Mummert, 54, explained their point.

“If we continue to indoctrinate our young people with non-religious principles, we’re headed for an internal destruction of this society,” he said.

“Evolution is just a theory and there are other theories,” Mummert explained, smiling through his beard.

“There is such a complexity in life, and science wants to hang its hat on a belief that life somehow started — they say there is no creator, no order … I believe there is a creator,” he said.

Both sides acknowledge the political context of the debate over Darwinism, and the relation to the re-election of staunchly Christian President George W. Bush (news – web sites).

“Christians are a lot more bold under Bush’s leadership, he speaks what a lot of us believe,” said Mummert.

“We’ve been attacked by the intelligent, educated segment of the culture,” he said, adding that the school board’s declaration is just a first step.”

There is nothing I hate more than being attacked with by intelligent people and especially the cultured ones, they are the worst.

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